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Thread: 4 hit ws build

  1. #11
    Player Kuroganashi's Avatar
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    This is how I get a 25% TP / hit settup (4 hit)

    GK got STP+12 on it and I got Merit 5/5 STP
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    Last edited by Kuroganashi; 07-12-2011 at 06:16 AM. Reason: Additional Info

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    TP build doesnt work out in the math, even considering your using your using a STP keito, the math has you falling short, i count +90 STP 25/12.2 = 105 STP and thats not even considering your WS TP return. further more you are gimping your dammage without the TP bonus gkt.

    in order to get a proper x hit build you got to consider your TP return off a ws as you typically will have less STP on your ws therefore need more STP on your tp gear to make up the difference.

    in order to calculate your hit build:

    (100-TPR)/x = y/z = XTP - T = FTP

    TPR = tp return off ws
    x = hit build -1 (aka number of hits you are shooting for)
    y = total rounded up to the nearest .1
    z = base tp gain of your weapon (look it up on wiki)
    XTP = Total STP needed to get an x hit build based on your ws tp return (rounded up to the nearest 1)
    T = trait/passive STP total (were getting an update soon)
    FTP = STP from gear needed

    anyways if you post your WS gear set as well i can tell you how much total STP from gear you need to achieve a 4 hit with a Keitonotachi
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    Last edited by Nala; 07-12-2011 at 06:42 AM.

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    Just because you can doesn't mean you should...
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    Quote of the day*

    "Opps sorry dozed off, do you think I care about a 5hit build obvioulsy not. Do I have the gear for it yes I do. A little thing about WAR is double attack which makes up for that. So you can shove your 5hit build for someone that doesnt even have WAR leveled."

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    actually with that drain hp grip currently its easy to pull off without sacraficing much however that grip gives something like +100 delay, at the very least +93 delay for sure based on my tp return from the masamune (base 14.5, 19.5 completely naked aka +35 stp from traits) but you swing so freaking slow, gotta lose alot of DPS for it, plus the patch notes say they are fixing it tomorrow.
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    Using a grip that adds delay is never the right answer. It's effectively like using an item with Store TP +X% and Slow +Y%. Slowing down your swings is going in the wrong direction.

    Luckily for many, it seems that Squeenix has saved them from themselves with today's update.
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    Just thought I'd point out now that as of today's update, it is finally possible to 4-hit with masamune outside of Abyssea.

    However it does require some rare/expensive items and STP food, and it's only just barely attainable (IIRC, the most you can get is 121 STP with the food and you need 118 to 4-hit masamune)


    Not really sure how practical this is, given you have to use some less-than-prime gear (Hachiman Kote +1 for example) but it's possible.

    Unless there's a hardcap on STP that is.
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    It's a ridiculous idea, and not even close to worthwhile.
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    forget your 4hit, 6 hit >5hit if you lower your haste for stp


    and for hard cap there was none (tested with rose in campaign a long time ago)
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    24% haste 5 hit build is doing pretty good if you ask me, only losing out on 1.xx% and that one swing is about 4 some odd seconds faster to to another ws (depending on how much total haste you have)
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    Last edited by Nala; 07-12-2011 at 07:35 PM.

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    As I said, I was only pointing out that it's possible, I said nothing of it being practical.

    For now anyway - who knows what kind of STP gear or new merits we'll have access to at 99.
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