Originally Posted by
Creelo
This is not a Relic vs. Empy discussion, even though Daurdabla is overall much better than Gjallarhorn.
If you've read any of the forums about Gjallarhorn, you'd know that we want some type of specific song just for Gjallarhorn, whether this be a debuff (Massacre Elegy) or a buff, we'd have to wait and see. Basically, while all the relic weapons have been receiving all of these "hidden" buffs such as Relic WS Dmg+25%~ and increased Occasionally deals 2-3 times damage proc rates, and Aegis received its huge update to break the MDT limit, Gjallarhorn hasn't really received anything out of the ordinary.
If you have a Gjallarhorn, you are already gonna be capping potency for all buffs (only relevant buff to try to cap atm is Scherzo anyways) The CHR/Skill bonuses are like the Acc/Att buffs on other relics, they're expected to go up anyways. The "All Songs +3" is nice, but extra refresh isn't really needed as much these days, and Scherzo is quite situational. "All Songs +4" really won't change Brd much either.
First, a Gjallarhorn Brd should be hitting 13mp/tick due to AF3+2 pants. Anyways, too bad any old Brd can easily get Ballad +2 nowadays from regular gear and provide 9mp/tick, which should be more than enough due to other forms of MP regeneration.
Don't think this is directed at me because I never said Brd wasn't desired (Personally I don't see how it can't be desired, since it's the only job to easily allow jobs to hit the magical Haste cap 60%+ of the time through Marcato/Troubadour +March, March. Sch requiring their 2hr to do so is kinda blegh, unless inside Abyssea. Not to mention Brd can stack Carnage Elegy with Slow/II, although not Nocturne with Addle... derp!)
I'm assuming you're talking about Voidwatch with that set up? In that case, you should be hitting weaknesses enough to allow for your MP to be mostly sustained through your temps. Personally I don't remember the last time I've ever truly needed a Rdm's Refresh II, and I'm the type of Brd to constantly be casting Cure IV/Haste/-Nas/SS/Blink/etc. whenever possible lol
In any case, all Whm's should strive to get more auto-refresh from gear than just 2mp/tick from their AF3+2 body... :/
In the end, if you haven't lvl'd up Brd past lvl 1, you should probably stay out of the forums, or at least read them before putting in your input.