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Ditch having to face the mob altogether as I really don't want anymore pre weaponskill job abilities.

Fudo beats Shoha when Fudo's attack is capped

Shoha beats Fudo when Fudo's attack isn't capped

Fuck it, even Gekko beats Fudo when Fudo's attack isn't capped.


What's a SAM to do?!

This thread has given me great ideas, and probably many others.

Thanks for sharing.

Why would I use Stardiver against anything other than bird type mobs?


Also don't forget SAM can spam Apex Arrow with Quint Spear!

Thanks, I had absolutely no idea what exaggeration meant, you've changed my life.

I guess I'll just go back to my own full time (250 hour month) job and be more constructive with what little time...

You're not really making a point as you could nearly finish 3 stage 1 H2H with 100 sets. I probably wouldn't bother doing it either if I had to farm 200 sets just to get an Emp to 85.

50 sets is...

100 Chloris?

Shadow does both

Wow, someone posted a screenshot of a 7k Shoha (Abyssea trash mob no less) and everyone wants SAM nerfed.

A lot of unknowns surround that screenshot considering it was done inside Abyssea.

1....

I'd assume the first hit has an accuracy bonus, but not the second.

Might have a go at this new WS seeing as you can /WAR with it. Main reason I never did gear for Sidewinder is because of the /RNG and wanting to have better versatility by having a decent GK sub.

While true and we can only speculate this - How many people would have quit due to a lack of content if the time sinks weren't there? Square-Enix would have been forced to expand the game or face a...

Explain to me how I'm doing it wrong by having say 70+ pieces of equipment?

Apart from the obvious TP & WS sets there's a magnitude of other sets I carry around to be well, optimial, which in turn...

I don't think you realise that it isn't a flaw in the game, it's been pointed out several times that it is in fact a time sink.

I'd run out of fingers listing all the time sinks in this game (and...

I agree with this 100%, and it's not like every trial NM takes 8 hours anyway. I've done 5 weapon trials and I could count on one hand the amount of times it's taken more than 3 hours to pop.

Poor argument, just because you don't optimize your character at all times doesn't mean others don't.

Here's my suggestion for AF1 +2:

Nothing.

I find any other sub apart from /WAR too much of a drop in dot to be worthwhile, and I'd rather go a different job if I didn't have access to it.

/DNC is ok I guess, but as it's more solo...

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My IQ dropped after reading some of this thread, but then I remembered it was the DRK sub forum.

Depends on mob, Heca Sub +1 will fair better on high end things as PLD won't be very strong in the Atk department, but I wouldn't bring a PLD/SAM with GS anyway.

He's just upset no one really uses his site (probably because of him) so he trolls people on other forums. I have no regrets from blocking him when he first started posting on here.

I'm not entirely decided on which and what yet but I currently use Kamome for Abyssea and Ban for outside.

As stated, if you're going to be using 1 handed weapons you're better off just going /NIN. WAR would get no benefit from having native DW as what sub would you recommend using from a DD standpoint?...

Dusk +1 and Usukane Sune-ate for 26% gear haste.